In the second episode of Fear Itself, the podcast OTO sponsor about our relationship to fear, Cressida talks to award-winning author, journalist and broadcaster Elizabeth Day, about her fear of alienation, and the themes they discuss around alienation and human connection seem more relevant now than ever, given the current crisis we find ourselves in. Elizabeth is probably best known for her podcast, How To Fail, and the pair draw interesting parallels between fear & failure, particularly around the language associated with fear, why are we either fearful or fearless?

To find out more about Elizabeth & listen to How To Fail, you can head to her Instagram